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Re: Holidays
Posted by: Ooktavia (---.nv.iinet.net.au)
Date: December 12, 2002 10:11AM

<HTML>My parents and my sister are all vicars in the good old CofE, this makes holidays at Christmas and Easter impossbile for them, as you can imagine. It also meant we ALWAYS had at least 2 non-related elderly ladies/gents visiting at those times when I was growing up. The senile ones were good entertianment though. (We were kids. We had no concsiences)</HTML>

Re: Holidays
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.rdg.ac.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 12:03PM

<HTML>Can't imagine professional Santa impersonators affording much time off in early December....</HTML>

Re: Holidays
Posted by: Carla (198.179.227.---)
Date: December 12, 2002 12:08PM

<HTML>help help Triz's time/month/week continuum is getting mixed up</HTML>

Re: Holidays
Posted by: Sarah (---.vip.uk.com)
Date: December 12, 2002 12:10PM

<HTML>When I was in the Labour Party, our branch, for reasons unknown, was asked to provide an emergency Santa for a local primary school. We were all enthusiastically in favour, but none of the men actually wanted to do the job. In the end I lost patience and said that if the men were all going to wimp out, I'd do it myself... so I did! (I was a great deal flatter-chested in those days - I don't think a Santa in a D cup would look quite right.) One little girl gave me a very searching look and said, "You're not the _real_ Father Christmas, are you?" I grinned at her from behind my cotton wool beard and replied, "Shh, I'm doing my best!" This seemed to be the correct answer, because she went away obviously satisfied.

Thinking about it, it was a damn sight more fun than the politics...</HTML>

Re: Holidays
Posted by: Jon (---.abel.net.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 12:15PM

<HTML>I remember when they used to make bus drivers dress up as Santa - not all of them, just one from each depot. I met one such in the canteen of the Arndale bus station. He stood there, head down, uttering the mantra "____ing kids. ____ing, ____ing, ____ing, kids". Said it all, really.</HTML>

Labour Santas...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.rdg.ac.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 12:24PM

<HTML>Sarah - good job the Mail never heard about it - imagine the outcry over 'indoctrination' by 'Red Santa'...

I wonder if there's now 'New' Santa, who wears purple as it's a 'pretty straight kinda colour', had privatised the reindeers (Donner and Blitxen are now dog meat as part of the 'modernisation' programme), and stockings are going to be subject to a 'top-up fee'. And the rich kids are going to get even more than ever. And he'll also be sub-contracted to 'deliver ordinance' to Iraq, as the jargon currently has it.</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: Minsky Cat (---.vip.uk.com)
Date: December 12, 2002 12:42PM

<HTML>I _knew_ Santa wore red for a good reason. ;-)</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.rdg.ac.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 12:47PM

<HTML>Actually, you might know this... Wasn't there a line or two in the 'Red Flag' about the evils of landlords...</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: Sarah (---.vip.uk.com)
Date: December 12, 2002 12:54PM

<HTML>Sorry, I only know the first verse. In fact, I'm not even sure I know all of that... *blush*</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.rdg.ac.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 01:10PM

<HTML>"The Workers' flag's now privatised,
We've flogged it off to PFI's.
The Tories' corpse is dead and cold,
But Thatcher's got our hearts to hold.

Chorus:
<EM>
Keep Maggie's standards flying here,
Apply our lips to Dubya's rear.
Though Tony Benn may swear and curse,
You've had the Tories, now have worse.
</EM>

We'll flick the V's to firemen,
Tax the students, hate Red Ken.
The Labour party's modernised,
Socialism paralysed.

We'll go to war for Yankee oil,
We'll feck you over, young and old.
Our principles are up for sale,
Just twenty quid buys Tony's smile...</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: Sarah (---.vip.uk.com)
Date: December 12, 2002 01:12PM

<HTML>Pretty good, and very much to the point!</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: Jon (---.abel.net.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 01:15PM

<HTML>Psst ... wanna buy a flat? Half a mill the pair, and that's cuttin me own throat ....</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: Sarah (---.vip.uk.com)
Date: December 12, 2002 01:16PM

<HTML>*falls off chair laughing and gets very odd look from Minsky*</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.rdg.ac.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 01:18PM

<HTML>It's a bit like the current thing of 'We know Saddam has weapons of mass destruction. And here's the invoice we sent him to prove it.'

Did anyone notice how the USA is now supporting high seas piracy? And against a shipment that they knew about 12 months ago?</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: Jon (---.abel.net.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 01:23PM

<HTML>Ssssh ... at this rate LIAGB will be impounded on Ellis Island as subversive literature ....</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: fuzz (---.cableinet.co.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 02:43PM

<HTML>I like the song, is there a copy of the original words anywhere?</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.rdg.ac.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 02:47PM

<HTML><A HREF="http://www.comms.dcu.ie/sheehanh/rf-lyrics.htm">Red Flag - words + tune, apparently</A>

I'm sure we used to have to sing Grace before lunch at my school to the same tune. Obviously we had Trotskyist Dinner Ladies.</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: Jon (---.abel.net.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 02:51PM

<HTML>The tune is trad., arr. International Revolutionaries. US readers will know it better as O, Tannenbaum, O Tannenbaum (Oh, Christmas Tree, oh, Christmas Tree).</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.rdg.ac.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 02:52PM

<HTML>But that doesn't explain the Che beards they grew.... (i'm not even going to try and spell 'Guevara')</HTML>

Re: Labour Santas...
Posted by: fuzz (---.cableinet.co.uk)
Date: December 12, 2002 02:58PM

<HTML>While we're on the subject of Trots, has anyone else read any Ken MacLeod? Mainly scifi with a very strong political theme, although he's toned it down a bit in the recent books. I'm guessing his publisher told him there was no way he would sell a book in the US that had *shock horror* socialists in it, macarthyism being what it is (should that have had a capital M?)</HTML>

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