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After the 100th read ...
Posted by: charles ronayne (---.liv.ac.uk)
Date: October 21, 2002 01:46PM

<HTML>It was something I picked up on during one of the earlier threads that Scarletbea said (I think) about always noticing new things every time I read the book. Its funny but I only just noticed the joke about 'caravagggggio' having a more sensible name a couple of days ago, despite having read the book so many times I can't remember. And that was only becuase I happen to be studying his paintings at the moment as part of my English course.
Its like I keep finding evidence to support my weird and wacky ideas, which range from the bizzare (Granny Next actually being Thursday. There is actually more evidence for this than you might think!!) to the quite possible (the guy Thursday is defending in the patch of bad time is her son.)
Actually I'm sure ive read the book over 100 times but hey I'm sure there are some people here who might have re-read that much, especially the Eyre Affair. So I was just wondering what sort of things people keep missing for ages before the finally realise what they were missing. I would imagine that includes chapter 13 so I know a couple of people's already!! I feel a sociological experiment coming on!!</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: jon brierley (---.abel.net.uk)
Date: October 21, 2002 04:35PM

<HTML>One of the advantages of being a bit of a speed reader is that I can always re-read a book and find things I've missed before. Also I am absolutely rotten at 'getting' things, so a subtle joke or allusion might not register the first 20 times anyway.
In the interests of sociological research I shall re-read TEA and LIAGB and see what turns up!

The downside of being a fast reader is that I can buy a book on the way home from work and have it read by bedtime, whereas the same book, lent to my dad, can last him weeks. Sometimes having a mitey brane can be curse chiz.</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: October 21, 2002 06:47PM

<HTML>There is a joke in there that has been referred to on the ffrorum several times - and I still don't get it! It really pisses me off, as I'm not that stupid, but it really plagues me. I can't remember what the joke is now, but I'll update you when I get it...

What we really need now is a few nutters putting really extreme conspiracy theories about re Goliath or the plots of the book really being some kind of message to secret agents on the far side of the moon...

Or bizarre sociological readings of it. I always used to think that Bagpuss was a subversive comment on totalitarian Soviet regimes whose use of technology in persuit of a socialist ideal of love and harmony was consistently undermined by a under educated peasant class whilst legitamized by an intellectual class divorced form the real world by their own academic habits.

Then somebody explained it was really about a cloth cat that Emily loved very much...</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: ScarletBea (---.telepac.pt)
Date: October 21, 2002 08:34PM

<HTML>LOLOLOL
and Ben, now I'm curious about that joke ????</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: ScarletBea (148.177.129.---)
Date: October 22, 2002 12:03PM

<HTML>And although I re-read stuff (there's a limit to the books I buy lol, except when I go to england and lose myself in a british bookshop = paradise for me :D), I don't do it *that* often...
so that means that sometimes even if I've noticed things on the first read, in the meantime I forgot about them and they look new to me when I'm re-reading the book. In a way, it's nice :)</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: all-american-cutie (---.dalect01.va.comcast.net)
Date: October 22, 2002 10:30PM

<HTML>At least most of you guys have the ability to catch the Brit pop culture references. Not all of that stuff translates easily over here. I do try though! I have the notion that I "see" the references, and I "know" they're funny, but it beats me as to why! But one thing I do find quite funny is that each time I read either book, I do tend to pick up more references. I think it's especially hilarious when I've just seen some random movie or television show that also make some kind of reference that helps me figure it out.

...reminds me of the time in 6th grade that Jeopardy used the word "genre" in an answer and I understood because my spelling test that week also included "genre". Feels quite the same! LOL</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: Robert Craine (---.enterprise.net)
Date: October 24, 2002 09:14PM

<HTML><quote>(Granny Next actually being Thursday. There is actually more evidence for this than you might think!!)</quote>

hmmm.... my own pet theory (down boy!) is that Thursday's father is her son.... so that would make Thursday her own Grandmother.... but on the other side of the family. I suppose she could be both of her grandmothers....

rob</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: October 25, 2002 07:27PM

<HTML>All these incestuous theories are somewhat let down by the fact that Thursday doesn't come from either Norfolk, the Forest of Dean or Worcester.

Neither does she have 11 fingers.

It all reminds me of a mock-bluegrass song I once wrote:

"Well my Grandma is my cousin and my long lost eldest too,
And I'm not sure 'bout my brother but my parents named him Sue,
Now I've got 11 fingers, so I play the banjo mean,
Huh? Outbreeding? Waht does that mean?"

I'm not saying it was a very good song....</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: October 29, 2002 02:02AM

<HTML>Braxton Hicks, may have been the pun that I'd failed to understand. Thank God for Google, is all I can say! But then reading the explanation, maybe not...

I'm sure there's lots else I've missed though....</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: ScarletBea (148.177.129.---)
Date: October 29, 2002 08:21AM

<HTML>erm... what about Braxton Hicks?</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: all-american-cutie (---.dalect01.va.comcast.net)
Date: October 29, 2002 04:58PM

<HTML>Bea,

Braxton Hicks are a kind of "practice" labor women have before they actually have the baby. Named for the doctors who noticed the difference and just happened to be the first to write a paper about it! And in reality, it's Braxton-Hicks LOL (There's also a Pop/Rock Indie band by the same name)

Hey, do you think we should start a band called "Thursday Next"?? Hey, I can play Marimba and Xylophone and even sing a little...and I'm not bad at the mouth harp either! Maybe we can use "Til Tuesday" as an influence! LOL

"HELLO SWINDON, how ya doin' tonite!"

~Twila~</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: October 29, 2002 09:04PM

<HTML>I can't sing, but I can play guitar and bass (I'd prefer bass).

I'm up for it if anybody else is!</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: ScarletBea (---.telepac.pt)
Date: October 29, 2002 09:08PM

<HTML>I'm not that bad at singing if you don't hit the high notes lol</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: Jon (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: October 29, 2002 09:51PM

<HTML>Well, I can sing. A bit.

Incidentally the answer to "hello Swindon, how ya doin tonite?" would be an embarrassed mumble of "yeah, OK, I spose." And that would be from the real ravers.</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: Magda (---.dialip.mich.net)
Date: October 30, 2002 02:50AM

<HTML>And I sing alto and second soprano (not simultaneously) in a small madrigal choir.

This is looking to be a pretty geographically challenged group though. Here in Michigan I'm about a 9 hour drive from Twila, and substantially further from the rest of you.</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: all-american-cutie (---.dalect01.va.comcast.net)
Date: October 30, 2002 03:41PM

<HTML>heheeh, we could do a video conference rehearsal! of course, finding a time that appeals to all time zones will be the problem...</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: October 30, 2002 07:01PM

<HTML>Well, I'm a natural rock star - and student - so I don't ever seem to wake during the hours of daylight. Does this make it handier for US time?</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: all-american-cutie (---.dalect01.va.comcast.net)
Date: October 31, 2002 05:17AM

<HTML>well if you look at the times I normally post, I'm quite the night owl, so I may just be getting ready to go to bed when you Brits (and other Europeans [Bea!] ) are just getting to work. But if ya wanna rehearse....

Ladies and Gentlemen, please put your hands together for the latest international sensation....THUUUUUUURSDAY NEXT!

[as a lone audience member slowly and sloppily applauds]</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: charles ronayne (---.liv.ac.uk)
Date: October 31, 2002 02:02PM

<HTML>Hey thats not very fair, there are bound to be at least two people behind the bar where you are performing ...
I'm pretty good on the acoustic air guitar Bill and Ted style b.t.w. Probably do better as one of those strange people, dressed in some outrageous costume, who run around on stage like a nutter and finally decide to throw themselves into the crowd, though. :-)</HTML>

Re: After the 100th read ...
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: October 31, 2002 06:14PM

<HTML>Charles - if you want to hang round with musicians then you can be the drummer!

Acoustic air guitar? Intriguing. Does that require sort of sitting ion a corner staring at your feet whilst singing very quietly, a la Coldplay?</HTML>

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