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Logic Puzzles
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.rdg.ac.uk)
Date: March 03, 2003 02:45PM

We haven't been playing our usual games since the new fforum started working, so it's time to change all that. Thanks to Booknut for the idea...

Basically post any logic puzzles in this here thread...

And to start....

Two electricians walk into a pub and order a beer. The first electrician is the other one's father, yet the second electrician is not his son. How come?



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Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: Anonymous User (217.206.131.---)
Date: March 03, 2003 03:06PM

2nd electrician is his daughter?

Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: dave (212.158.104.---)
Date: March 03, 2003 03:09PM

another Brierley on the fforum? Any relation to Jon/Adam?


Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: dave (212.158.104.---)
Date: March 03, 2003 03:10PM

notice how quickly I got the thread off-topic? :-)


Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: jon (---.abel.net.uk)
Date: March 03, 2003 03:24PM

My great-grandad was called Sam ... but a) he wasn't a Brierley, and b) he was killed at Passchendaele, so it isn't him.

Jon (no relation)



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Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.rdg.ac.uk)
Date: March 03, 2003 03:53PM

For a moment there I thought that was the start of a different question. And yes, twas a daughter. I never said it was a very hard one - just good for sorting out a bit of mysogynistic thinking. Anyone got a better question?

Hello Whittam btw, nice pic too.



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Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: Rob (---.leeds.ac.uk)
Date: March 03, 2003 05:15PM

It's just Dave trying to get things off topic so we don't realise he's crap at puzzles.

You have nine seeming indentical balls. However, one is lighter. What is the fewest number of weighings using a balance to workout which one it is ?

I'm off home soon (well to see Toyah in Calamity Jane of all things !) so answer tomorrow.

P.S. It's not the thing in the Telegraph a few weeks ago as I can't remember that one...

Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: Magda (---.med.umich.edu)
Date: March 03, 2003 06:01PM

One if you're really lucky. ;-)

Otherwise the best I can come up with is 2.



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Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: Sarah B (---.blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: March 03, 2003 09:49PM

OK...

A man is pushing his car and he stops outside a hotel. Immediately he knows that he is bankrupt. How?

No fair if you watch 'Brainteasers' on this one...



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Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.dalect01.va.comcast.net)
Date: March 03, 2003 09:51PM

on the electrician one, it didn't necessarily have to be his daughter...he could have been a Priest...

and on the second one, you don't need to weigh them, just bounce them...generally, the lighter one wouldn't bounce as high as the others....


always trying to think "outside the box" but then again, I've never claimed to be the logical sort! So perhaps what I've said is total rubbish! LOL


Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: Magda (---.med.umich.edu)
Date: March 03, 2003 10:04PM

Well, it would depend what the balls were made of. Some things really don't bounce much, regardless.

I always liked the story about the Physics student who was asked on the final exam how to figure out the height of a tall building using a barometer. As I recall, he suggested:

Knocking on the door of the landlord and telling him "I will give you this fine barometer if you will tell me how high this building is."
or
Tying a rope to the barometer and lowering it from the roof until the barometer touched the ground, then measuring the rope.


When told the first two answers didn't employ anything he had learned in class (and thus wouldn't be awarded credit) he then suggested dropping the barometer from the roof of the building, timing how long it took to fall, and then calculating the height of the building.

Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: March 03, 2003 10:50PM

Who the hell is Toyah? It's a mystery.



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Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.rdg.ac.uk)
Date: March 04, 2003 10:21AM

I agree with the grand total of two weighings, using a method that is guaranteed to identify the light ball in two weighings, at the expense of not being able to have a flukey guess and get it in one.

I can also get it in no weighings, without even touching the balls.

1: Duck tape up the windows and doors.
2: Cut a hole in the ceiling.
3: Fill the room with sea water
4: Go fishing
5: Dolphins can distinguish between two tennis ball sized objects at the other end of a 30m pool. Train a dolphin to select and retrieve the odd object out, using copious rewards of fish from stage 4.
6: Insert dolphin into flooded room
7: Look smug - and don't think of the time wasted when you could have weighed the balls twice in far less time.



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Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: jon (---.abel.net.uk)
Date: March 04, 2003 11:05AM

Duck tape? There's a tape just for ducks? That's quackers.



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Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.rdg.ac.uk)
Date: March 04, 2003 11:15AM

Of course - have you ever tried peeling off normal tape with a bill? It just won't happen.

And 'Duck Tape' really does exist - and I can prove it! There's even a club...

[www.wikipedia.org]

[www.duckproducts.com]

And for more uses, try [www.octanecreative.com]

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EDIT --> Intriguingly, given the multitude of uses, Duck Products post the following warning:

Please note that HCA has NOT tested the product's effectiveness for use in biohazardous situations.

I wonder if the Department of Homeland Security know this?



Post Edited (03-04-03 12:18)

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D.I.Y.
Posted by: Rob (---.leeds.ac.uk)
Date: March 04, 2003 12:36PM

Man only needs two things for all DIY activities. Duck tape and WD40.

If it moves and it shouldn't ... Duck tape.
If it doesn't move and it should ... WD40.

Job done.

Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: dave (212.158.104.---)
Date: March 04, 2003 01:10PM

hmm. I know the answer to the bankrupt one, but how to post without spoiling it for those that don't?

back in the old html days, I could have put it in the same colour font as the background, so you would have to select the answer to see it highlighted..


Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: Rob (---.leeds.ac.uk)
Date: March 04, 2003 01:39PM

I'm guessing it's not as simple as there being a big sign saying 'Mr Smith you are bankrupt' ??

Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: Carla (198.179.227.---)
Date: March 04, 2003 02:05PM

go on, tell us the bankrupt thing, just write spoiler in the beginning

Re: Logic Puzzles
Posted by: dave (212.158.104.---)
Date: March 04, 2003 02:54PM

Imagine you're in central london somewhere, ooh, I dunno, say Mayfair? Or Park Lane.

Does that help?


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