Greetings. I have always thought that time and place were completely malleable tissues - thin barriers constructed to hold "sense" in its place within the narrow human view. It would seem to me that there is no real evidence that Anton is, indeed, "gone". In what way is he dead if he continues to exist in not only the character's minds but in the imagination of the readers? Anton is as alive as I am for I have yet to encounter any persuasive argument to convince me that I, myself, am not but a memory in the pages of time.

I think that Goliath probably resembles MacDonalds.

Think about it, they are probably the one company that has spread their [useless] products everywhere. They have their 'five-star' regimental hierachy system for their workers, which rewards long-time workers in a military-like fashion. They also were so determined during the 80s to infiltrate Russia by putting such an American symbol of capitalism in Moscow quickly after the cold war ended. This may have some symbolism to the ongoing Crimean War in the Nextian universe.

Another idea may be Coca-Cola, but I'm sticking with MacDonalds. It'll be free toy plasma rifles in Happy Meals next.....

I could see Goliath being a sort of meta-McDonalds. I mean, McDonalds is big, but I think Goliath is even bigger than any single corporation our world has seen. And besides, doesn't Goliath own SmileyBurger?
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hmm, have you got the part yet where Colonel next says that time is the glue of the cosmos (or something like that)? i think the point of eradication or a good eradication is that only one thing changes and the rest remains as much as it *should* or "would have" been.

Eradication has been around since Orwell's 1984. Deleting references to people was Winston's job. They were also, periodically, uneradicated when it suited the Party's purpose. In Orwell's future, the eradication is achieved by unspoken consensus - doublethink.

but if this was going to happen our world would have turned into the nextian world before 1985 at least, and well im not sure if youve noticed, but its 2006. :D

I think speculation like that is less about the possibility of thursday's world literally happening in our world, and more about the possibilities presented by time travel technology if it ever fell into the wrong hands.



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Speculating about time-travel technology and eradication in Thursday's world is a pleasant diversion.
Orwell was writing about thoroughly achieveable 'eradication' in the real world (the Russians, for instance were gleefully airbrushing Trotsky out of photographic history).

Right, all those photos of twelve guys sitting at a table with thirteen pairs of feet under it...



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Where are these photos? I want to see them!

You could click here or google some combination like *Trosky photo removed* (I tried this to get to the link I've given you) or some other combination such as *photo falsification removal* etc.

<if you click on the link I've provided and you're interested, click on the link within the link to go to 'The Commisar Vanishes' site.>



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I can't say for sure why he couldn't just bring him back, but i'm going to say that Anton's death is just a plot tool. A step ladder if you will to Thursday and Landan's past and future together, therefore creating more books, without Landan how would Thursday get pregnant? and if she's not pregnant why would she go to live in the well of lost plots? think about it, without Anton virtually there is no reason to have written the well of lost plots, Anton's death it very key to the stories.



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