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Reader's Guides
Posted by: MartinB (---.dynamic.isadsl.co.za)
Date: January 08, 2010 11:30AM

No one has been making any of these, which is a pity, since the last one was for Something Rotten.

As such, and because I have not got enough else to do, I will be attempting to take over where PSD left off.

It will take me a few weeks to find the page references and so on, but if people have anything hideously obscure in either TBOE, T4thB or FAS, please let me know on astonmartin(dot)bentley(at)gmail(dot)com

Likewise, I will post a draft and if people feel I left something out or missed something or should remove something, changes can be made.

I have not spoken to PSD, since his e-mail address on the phorum bounces, but I know he had a draft of a guide to TBOE. I have no idea how far along this was though, so feel I might as well start at the beginning.

Otherwise, if you feel this is a pointless effort, let me know. :)

__________________________________
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: MartinB (---.dynamic.isadsl.co.za)
Date: January 11, 2010 07:57PM

No comments?

__________________________________
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: delacuesta (---.adsl.xs4all.nl)
Date: January 11, 2010 09:19PM

Well...

to be honest...

don't get me wrong...

A Reader's Guide would be fun to read, and probably useful too - for new readers. But most diehards here will already have found their way using Jasper's own pages, the fforum. the library, the internet and whatnot.

Notwithstanding, a list of relevant nursery rhymes would be highly appreciated to better enjoy TBOE and TFB, at least by us on the continent who don't know half of them, or not by their English names.

For FAS the level set by PSD on the earlier novels may be pretty ambitious nowadays. Maybe something simpler will work just as well.

In short, your most grateful public will be those who participate least in this fforum.

Cheers.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/11/2010 09:21PM by delacuesta.

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: SkidMarks (---.manc.cable.ntl.com)
Date: January 12, 2010 09:45AM

Go For it, Martin!

While the regulars might not need it as much as new readers, we all miss some stuff, I am sure.
I remember that I first came to the forum to find out about some bits that I didn't understand and found PSD's guide useful.

Even if only a few people are brought in, if you will enjoy doing it, then it will be worthwhile.

(edited to attempt to sort out mangled English.)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/12/2010 09:49AM by SkidMarks.

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: MartinB (---.dynamic.isadsl.co.za)
Date: January 12, 2010 11:08AM

Yeah. There is a lot in FAS that is already in previous guides. Also, I felt the book had fewer really obscure things, but may revise that after re-reading it again.

But it will happen. :)

__________________________________
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: Bonzai Kitten (141.132.104.---)
Date: January 13, 2010 10:51PM

The guides are also terribly entertaining. I know I used to read them for S and G (with vodka) and a side window for googling the references.




Part time Quantum Elephant hollower

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: MartinB (---.dynamic.isadsl.co.za)
Date: January 18, 2010 07:43PM

Yeah. Is a lot to try and match. We will see how successful I am.

I have page references for FAS done, so will start hunting for information to fill it in with soon....

Dreading to think how much I missed though.

__________________________________
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: SkidMarks (---.manc.cable.ntl.com)
Date: March 01, 2010 10:23AM

Are we there yet?

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: CannibalRabbit (---.VIC.netspace.net.au)
Date: March 02, 2010 11:05AM

How much further?

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: geg (---.15-2.cable.virginmedia.com)
Date: March 02, 2010 11:43AM

Can we stop for a burger?

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: EgonSpengler (---.is.nottingham.ac.uk)
Date: March 02, 2010 12:12PM

Or a tofu kebab?

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: geg (---.15-2.cable.virginmedia.com)
Date: March 04, 2010 09:13AM

Are you sure we shouldn't have taken a left at the last crossroads?

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: MartinB (---.cache.ru.ac.za)
Date: March 09, 2010 03:36PM

Sorry. Geology honours year has whomped me hard regarding much time aside from climbing and organising a new circus society.

This is not forgotten, I promise. I should be able to make some good headway in a after my field work next week.

__________________________________
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: MuseSusan (---.wireless.albany.edu)
Date: March 09, 2010 07:17PM

I have to admit, given the choice between writing a guide to FAS and organizing a circus society, I think I'd pick the circus.

Re: Reader's Guides
Posted by: MartinB (---.dynamic.isadsl.co.za)
Date: October 22, 2011 09:45PM

So, yes, this....

I have actually got some progress, although it has stagnated. I dug out a bunch of references in FAS, some help filling them in would be appreciated. I do know many of these, but am following the principle of "release early, release often", at least in principle....

Quote:
First Among Sequels - A Reader's Guide for Readers

This is the nexy Next Guide, so welcome. I am Martin Bentley, and I will do my best to live up to the level of Jon Brierly's and Ben Thymens' previous guides.

I also do not wish to go over the ground that they covered so well, so if something appears in a previous book or someone is a recurring character, look in those guides. I have also tried to avoid spoiling anything, but no promises.

Also, Jasper seems to have been a lot more exposition heavy in places than in the past, so those sections have not been annotated. If I have missed anything there, or elsewhere, feel free to contact me, either through the Fforum (I am MartinB there) or via e-post at mtb at martinb dot za dot net with the details and a page number.

Page numbers are for the Hodder and Staughton trade-paperbacks, since that is the version I have access to.

Before I dive into the actual guide, please see [www.jasperfforde.com] for what the deal is if you have any missing footnotes.

And now, without further ado:

FIRST AMONG SEQUELS - A Guide for the Bewildered, Perplexed and Horribly Lost.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cross Lewis' Number;

p.1 Redmond van der Post;

p.1 Alfredo Trafficcone;

p.3 Idiocy Offsets;

p.5 Barney Plotz;

p.6 Whatever happened to ... ;
Relates to the Superman story "Whatever Happened to the Man from Tomorrow". Well, even if it does not, it works.

p.6 Corby Scarlet;

p.6 dubious first novel;

p.6 guineas;

p.7 Dirt Harry meets Fanny Hill;

p.8 diesel-molasses hybrid cars;

p.9 Bananas for Edward;

p.10 shark repellent; That is how Batman made it....

p.10 Strontium Goat;

p.12 Apocalypse Next;
I believe this is somewhere on Japser's list of possible titles.

p.13 Tristram Shandy;

p.19 Welsh Tocyns;

p.19 pasta and anti-pasta;
Technically it is anti-pasto, but the similarities between cooking and particle physics are too great to ignore: no one really understands either, they are both complicated, and the cost is gastronomical.

p.25 Acme Carpets;

p.29 BETA;

p.30 Health and Safety;

p.33 Acheron, Aornis and Cocytus;
See the previous guides, but these are rivers named in Greek myth. Also quite a nasty family....

p.36 Limburger;

p.40 'special protection'; Actually, it is accorded some. See LIAGB.

p.42 Good Soldier Svejk;

p.43 departure of comedy from Thoms Hardy;
This could not have happened, since he writes such laugh-a-minute stories. </sarcasm>

p.44 [books listed];

p.45 1782;
Numbers usually mean something in Jasper's books. In this case, 1782 saw the opening of the first commercial bank in the USA, Rosseau's death and a few other things. When I look at the context again I will have a better idea for what to put in here....

p.45 MAWk-15H; Mawkish?

p.47 Senator Jobsworth;
A Jobsworth is a particularly annoying type of civil servant, who would love to help, but "It's more than me job's worth, guv"....

p.47 spectacles problem;

p.57 Speedy Muffler;

p.59 Mrs Dalloway;

p.59 Axis of Unreadable;

p.90 Isambard Kingdom Brunel;
Just go look at 2dGoggles, since Sidney Padua explains IK Brunel far better than I do.

p.93 The Demonic Couplets;

p.102 Murder of Roger Ackroyd;

p.110 Cornelius Scampton-Tappett;

p.113 Fermat's Last Theorem;

p.120 Berko-Boyler;

p.120 October sixth, 1983;

p.122 Bendix Scintilla;

p.126 SHE is the one who must be obeyed;

p.137 Dr Who;

p.139 Welsh rarebit;

p.140 Scorcese;

p.163 James Tarbuck;

p.163 Clary-LaMarr;

p.164 Ekranoplane;

p.167 Apologorium;

p.169 Austen Rover;
The Austin Rover is a real car. This one? I wish it were....

p.179 Colonel William Dobbin;

p.217 Colonel Barksdale;

p.218 Jacob Marley, Snork Maiden, Senator Zigo;

p.226 The Second Sex;

p.233 Dr Temperance Brennan;

p.234 Mickey Finn;

p.235 Kathy and Kerry;

p.269 Tobruk;

p.282 lasagne three nights in a row;
I could go for that as part of the price to rat out my sister.... I love lasagne.

p.284 Schroedinger Night Fever principle;

p.284 Pulp Fiction, Face/Off;

p.287 The Short Now;

p.303 Special Theory of Relativity

p.306 visible reading matter;

p.306 Why so much unread and untold;

p.308 Dr Nessecitar;

p.337 Spacehopper;

p.373 something nasty sitting in the corner;

p.383 [whole page]; Sound familiar at all?

p.393 serial killer; Argh....

p.395 got a situation; Such a cliff-hanger.... Hope that Thursday returns soon....

Edit: What do you know, it actually posted the whole thing....
Time to put in some actual content.

__________________________________
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/22/2011 10:05PM by MartinB.



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