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Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: jon (---.abel.net.uk)
Date: May 20, 2003 04:51PM

Ay, where are they?

I'm going home in a minute. I think I shall need;

- forty cubits of gopher wood and

- two of every sort of animal.

Oh, and a better raincoat ....



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Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Magda (---.dialip.mich.net)
Date: May 20, 2003 04:54PM

I gather it's raining a bit?

Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Auntysassy (193.132.206.---)
Date: May 20, 2003 04:55PM

I claim the prize cos we've got sun in Farnham- we've had sun for nearly 3 hours without a break!

We had rain this morning though and last night it teemed down stair-rods!


Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Rob (---.leeds.ac.uk)
Date: May 20, 2003 04:59PM

We had sun in Leeds once. 1883 it was. One of those stories that's passed down from father to son. I think it's probably a myth.

Now rain. I can tell you all about rain...

Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.dalect01.va.comcast.net)
Date: May 20, 2003 05:04PM

you know, last year we had a horrible drought. This year we're up to our knees in rain water. Go figure!

Today and yesterday were the first two sunny days in a row in over 2 months!

Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Rob (---.leeds.ac.uk)
Date: May 20, 2003 05:11PM

Days !

If we get two sunny minutes in a row we consider ourselves lucky.

This weekend we've hired a canal barge from Skipton. I'm worried we may sink...

Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Guy (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: May 20, 2003 05:28PM

It's even been raining on and off for three days in Cambridge.

Now I know that doesn't sound very impressive, but we're not used to it, you know -- a little known fact about Cambridgeshire is that we have a lower average annual rainfall than @#$%& (that's the middle-eastern kingdom, not the 'model')



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Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Simon (---.lancing.org.uk)
Date: May 20, 2003 05:34PM

Talking of little-known facts about Cambridgeshire: Did you already know about the county's nineteenth-century coprolite-digging & processing industry?

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Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: May 20, 2003 06:22PM

I did, but then I'm like that...

(coprolites = fossilised turds)



Post Edited (05-20-03 19:32)

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This is the work of an Italian narco-anarchic collective. Don't bother insulting them, they can't read English anyway.

Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Sarah (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: May 20, 2003 08:09PM

H'mm. We didn't even get any warning of it yesterday. One moment it was a lovely warm sunny day, next minute it was torrential rain with a generous admixture of hail and it was jolly cold. David left his sun roof open and had to bale out the car. I fared slightly better - I just got caught out in a spring outfit, large white sunhat and espadrilles...



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Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Skiffle (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: May 20, 2003 08:26PM

That's the thing about living in Britain, we have so much weather. If the Inuit have 40 (or however many) words for snow, the British probably have as many for water falling from the sky.

Saying I heard somewhere:

America has climate: England has weather.

Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Sarah (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: May 20, 2003 08:48PM

Actually, that's a well-known factoid which is exploded by Steven Pinker in his book "The Language Instinct". The Inuit don't have any more words for snow than anyone else does. It apparently all started with some enthusiastic but not very scholarly amateur linguist who reported that they had (I think) ten different words for snow, and this story got passed on and repeatedly exaggerated... it just, er, snowballed, in fact.

My ex-husband had just one word for snow, but it wasn't printable.



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That which does not kill us makes us stranger.
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Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Skiffle (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: May 20, 2003 09:07PM

In that case, do the English have more words and phrases for describing the weather (especially wet), than anyone else ?

I'll make a start:

rain
drizzle
sleet
pissing down
pouring
raining cats and dogs
raining stair rods
throwing it down
spitting
cloudburst
chucking it down
shower

Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Skiffle (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: May 20, 2003 09:08PM

In that case, do the English have more words and phrases for describing the weather (especially wet), than anyone else ?

I'll make a start:

rain
drizzle
sleet
pissing down
pouring
raining cats and dogs
raining stair rods
throwing it down
spitting
cloudburst
chucking it down
shower

Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Sarah (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: May 20, 2003 09:14PM

It's entirely possible. In Italian, if you want to say it's raining heavily, you have a choice between "diluvia" (it's pouring) and "piove a catinelle", which literally means "it is raining in small bowlfuls". Picturesque, but it doesn't quite give you the full impact of it. Oddly enough, the second way of saying it seems to be by far the more common.

Perhaps it doesn't usually rain very heavily in Italy?



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That which does not kill us makes us stranger.
(Llewelyn the dragon, Ozy and Millie)

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Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.dalect01.va.comcast.net)
Date: May 20, 2003 10:12PM

we use all of those except "pissing down" "raining stair rods" and "chucking it down"

and we also have "mist", "frizzle" (at least here on the East coast- freezing drizzle), freezing rain (again a big East coast thing), "raining buckets", "monsooning" or "monsoon rains" (aka afternoon thunderstorm after a very hot humid day). I'm sure there's more but I'm brain dead at the moment

Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Guy (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: May 21, 2003 12:04AM

I'm sure we have hundreds in (British) English, but I'm darned if I can think of any more . . .

Oooh, Scotch mist -- that's just another way of saying heavy drizzle (yes, we have grades of drizzle here) but it sounds so much better, doesn't it?



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Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Simon (---.lancing.org.uk)
Date: May 21, 2003 08:57AM

We have "coming down in buckets" here, too.
'Mizzle' = an intermediate state between mist & drizzle.
'Torrential'.

'a Sprinkle', 'Sprinkling' = slightly heavier than 'Spitting' but still not worth worrying about...

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Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: dante (---.kw.bbc.co.uk)
Date: May 21, 2003 10:00AM

What book has the Rain God? I've got a horrible feeling it's T*m H*lt, actually, but there's this truck driver who's put rain into 150 or so categories...



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Do something pretty while you can...

Re: Where are the songs of Spring?
Posted by: Rob (---.leeds.ac.uk)
Date: May 21, 2003 10:02AM

It's one of the Dirk Gently ones isn't it ?

Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul ??

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