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Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Skiffle (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: July 08, 2003 11:17PM

Thursday takes her practical test in 'Shadow - the sheep dog', right ? The copy in the Library is described as a 'thin volume', which is what I would expect of a typical Enid Blyton book. I have three children's books in front of me, averaging around 170 pages.

So I was surprised when Thursday enters 'Shadow' at page 231. This seems to be fairly close to the end, but all the same, it suggests a far thicker book than I had expected.

I've never seen a copy of 'Shadow - the sheepdog' - perhaps Jasper has a copy with those page numbers. And although the UA of W Cat says it was published by Collins in 1950, I did a check today on an Enid Blyton site, which lists it as published by Newnes in 1942. Perhaps the Cat (or Jasper), has a later edition ?

Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: July 08, 2003 11:28PM

Fair point, but then Jane Eyre was a damned sight thinner until Thursday instigated a whole new ending taking up more space. I reckon the size of a book has nothing to do with the number of pages.



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Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: jon (---.abel.net.uk)
Date: July 09, 2003 09:44AM

A quick troll to Amazon reveals that the board bound Collins edition of 1969 has 184 pages. Older editions are listed as collectors items, including a hardback Collins 'illustrated by G W Backhouse'; no page numbers are given, but if we assume full-plate illos, it may well be more than 184.



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Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: AlisonS (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: July 09, 2003 05:41PM

Plus the type sizes tended to be larger then...

Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Simon (193.82.99.---)
Date: July 10, 2003 01:53PM

Larger print for younger readers, to make reading easier because they're less accustomed to looking at text? Makes sense.

Re the illustrator's surname, you do all know what a 'Backhouse' is (or can be, anyway...) don't you?

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Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: AlisonS (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: July 10, 2003 06:08PM

As in Mr. J Schitt's sneakier brother Brik?

Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Ptolemy (---.range217-44.btcentralplus.com)
Date: July 10, 2003 06:13PM

ROFLOL nice one Alison!!! Had to look twice before I was convinced you really HAD just written that! Hee!

I had to get rid of my shadow. It stopped doing what I was doing....

Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Simon (193.82.99.---)
Date: July 11, 2003 02:33PM

That's right ("Chuckle" :-).

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Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Milo (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: July 11, 2003 09:48PM

Eek! A speling vyrus!

Run for your fife! Move away from the aria!

Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Magda (---.med.umich.edu)
Date: July 11, 2003 10:00PM

Butt don't panache. Phile out inn a borderly fasten.

Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Milo (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: July 11, 2003 11:16PM

Squeezy hoar you two say, you've knobbly got a pictionary handy.

Gun I say! Fun as last as moo can....

And fetch me a carrot! Noooooo........

Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Magda (---.dialip.mich.net)
Date: July 12, 2003 04:31AM

Hear yew goo:

http://www.popit.dk/html_new/html/animals/images/parrot.gif



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Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Skiffle (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: July 17, 2003 10:16PM

I asked Jasper about 'Shadow the Sheepdog', in Leeds. He does have a copy and indicated that it was over 1" wide, which I would not describe as a 'thin volume'.
And I guess he must have read this thread, because he looked at me intently and said "So you're the troublemaker....."


Just doing my job :)

Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: July 17, 2003 10:35PM

wasn't it you who also raised the issue of the multiple shirt?



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Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Skiffle (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: July 19, 2003 10:34PM

I'm not sure what you're talking about, so I guess not.

Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Nicky (---.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net)
Date: July 20, 2003 07:10PM

I absolutely adored the Shadow the Sheepdog scenes--that bit with the tea and the emotion junkie townspeople had me laughing for ages. I read loads of Enid Blyton as a kid, but I never ran across this one.

One thing confused me...Miss H instructs Thursday to buy the pigs at double the going rate, but she buys them at treble the rate with the same pre-cut check. Anyone else find this odd?



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Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Skiffle (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: July 21, 2003 12:02AM

I hadn't noticed that ! Must go and check.

Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: Willie (---.dialup.optusnet.com.au)
Date: July 30, 2003 01:40PM

Regarding the publishing of Shadow the Sheepdog, in the non-Nextian Universe in which I'm typing this message it was indeed originally published by George Newnes Limited in 1942. I have beside me my mother's copy of the first reprint of the first edition printed in 1943. With some illustrations by Lucy Gee it clocks in at a whopping 188 pages.
I would guess that Jasper only had access to a later edition (probably the mentioned Collins 1950 ed.) which has more pretty pictures and therefore more pages.
Alternatively, he may have just felt that he had better things to do with his time than check the exact number of pages in the original edition of the book - don't we all?!

Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: July 30, 2003 06:30PM

Evidently....



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Re: Shadow - slim or fat ?
Posted by: kaz (144.139.77.---)
Date: July 31, 2003 01:14AM

Maybe Thursdays copy had lots of big pictures. And yes, I did notice that about the price of th pigs. Confused me a bit, too...


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