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Perkins mentions on pg 79 that the Minotaur was yanked out of Graves' "The Greek Myths" in 1944 and dumped in Stalingrad where he was spotted by a Jurisfiction agent and sent to the verdant hills of Zenobia. But, as we all know, since Lenin fell in love with the Welsh girl, the October Revolution never happened and Russia remained an Imperial state. So why would Volgograd have ever changed its name to honor the pseudonym of a failed priest from Georgia?
Were they that impressed with the moustache?

And of course, this also leaves aside the Battle of Stalingrad ended in 1943 issue since the whole alternate history thing accounts for that.

Actually, speaking of history, could people from biographies or historial works jump from their non-fiction bookworld locales into the real world? And would they resemble their real world counterparts or the interpetation of them made by the historian? Or for that matter could "real" people from the fiction bookworld currently residing in an AU SF work make that jump as well? Say, possibly and adult Winston Churchill jumping into Swindon from that AU WWII epic where he wasn't killed in boyhood by a fall from a tree? Or Lord Nelson from the one where the french sniper missed?

-Sirius, who's eyes are crossing at the damage a renagade Chrono-Guard and a Jurisfiction agent could do if they combined forces.

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"History changes all the time. It is constantly being reexamined and reevaluated, otherwise how would we be able to keep historians occupied? We can't possibly allow people with their sort of minds to walk around with time on their hands." - Lord Vetinari (Terry Pratchett)

Well, it is a rather fine moustache...

Maybe without Lenin Stalin became famous for his long-lasting patent footwear, which saved feet from extreme cold during winter, and was subsequently lauded by the residents of Volvograd for their newly toasty toes?
"Stalin's Sandals - treading on the face tof the oppressed! Forever!"



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1. The pre-revolutionary name was Tsaritsyn; Volgograd was bestowed by Khruschev after Josif Vissarionovich becane a tad unpopular.

2. The great city of the Volga has never been named after a Swedish car manufacturer (you're thinking of Saablomov, PSD).

3. Simple(?) explanation for J V Dzugashvili having a city named after him; JurisFiction serves all universes, not just Thursday's - and we know 'ours' exists somewhere because Colonel Next offers to hide Thursday in it. So JF operatives can transact Outland business in any one of an infinite number of Outlands ... provided they have literature, of course.

4. I have speculated before on biographical characters being treated as fictional, because, in a sense, they are (especially if auto-biographical). I would like to see Martin Gilbert's saintly WSC meet Clive Ponting's villainous one! FWIW I think biographs exist within BookWorld, possibly in a division of the Library we haven't seen yet (and that Jasper hasn't thought of a good pun to name it with). See 'Bookshop Story' in WN-1 for my take on this possibility. Link here.



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I am very interested in the Universe. I am specialising in the Universe and everything surrounding it. - E. L. Wisty

1. Thank you Jon, I'm ashamed to have forgotten that Volgograd was the third name of the city.


3. >JurisFiction serves all universes, not just Thursday's - and we know 'ours' exists somewhere because Colonel Next offers to hide Thursday in it<

But it's not our universe is it? It's a third one in the multitude. The one where the Russian revolution did happen and the Battle of Stalingrad didn't end until at least some time in 1944. (I am of course operating under the assumption that it was the Battle of Stalingrad that Norman was dumped into. Messy as post-battle Stalingrad was it wouldn't have been the hunting ground that the city in battle was.)

4. I see your point concerning biographical characters being fictional but doesn't that same argument then extend to the more general field of history as well? The inhabitants of David Irving's Third Reich are vastly different from those of Shirer's or Speer's or A.J. Nicholls'.
If I recall correctly, it was made fairly plain in WOLP that non-fiction was a separate entity from fiction (with wicked harsh rules regarding semi-colons, making one wonder how they deal with anything featuring Ronald Reagan) so where is the line drawn?

-Sirius

Jon - How could I be so stupid? Apart from through total ignorance and an inability to keep my mouth shut, obviously...

Mind you, the Norwegians named their most notable geographical features after a car manufacturer. Yup, thos famous Fords of Norway.....



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