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Interesting...it was a self-referential bet. Essentially, Zvlkx bet that he would win.
That reminds me of a logic joke (which I will tentatively credit to Martin Gardner - edit: it was Raymond Smullyan in his book Alice in Puzzleland) that uses characters from Alice Through the Looking Glass:
(The tail end of a long string of riddles)
Red Queen: Here is your last question: Will you get this question right?
Alice:(thinks about it)... Yes?
Red Queen: Wrong.
In that case, the Red Queen could have called it either right or wrong, but I doubt that could have worked for Goliath as they would have had their lawyers search the thing for loopholes. I don't think Zvlkx actually bet on Goliath's fall, the odds were on the outcome of the Superhoop; Goliath's fall was a direct result of Swindon winning, not a probability, and Zvlkx was just being cheeky to write it on the betting slip. That's my best guess, anyway!
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> b) [Shouldn't] Alice's answer to the original wording be "No" (once again,
> the answer is always correct)
If she answered "No," her answer would not be correct, it would be a paradox:
The Red Queen could not say that "No" was correct, because then Alice would be wrong about not getting the question right, in which case her answer would actually be incorrect, in which case... etc.
Likewise, the Queen could not say that Alice was wrong because then Alice would be right about being wrong... etc.
Infinite regress.
The same thing would happen if Alice answered "Yes" to the question "Will you get this answer wrong?" If, however, she answered "No" to that question it would be no different from answering "Yes" to the original question.
But I think we're all glad for the collapse of Goliath, even if Saint Zvlkx did smell bad.
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The timing of the cashing in must have been after the superhoop win as that was the bet with the big odds, the others were (relatively) small odds. 420/1 i think was the odds on the battle of waterloo. The superhoop game was 124000/1 and because it was an accumulator bet that last odds would have made it worth the 128 billion pounds. Also the fall of goliath,i thought, was irrelivant to the bet as the bet was on swindon winning the superhoop not on goliath falling. The goliath part was only relevant in the prophecy part.