Shame that the current Queen is technically Liz the First...



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Only in Scotland, and that, you will notice, is a list of English monarchs. You want a list starting at Kenneth McAlpin and running to Liz the First, ask one of our resident Scots.



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I know, but I thought I'd get in the standard whinge early for the Scots...

Who was it who said that the English viewed the French monarchy with suspicion because eight Henries seems excessive, and fourteen (Ah, now is it Louises? Louiss? Erm, Louii? Louiae?) - dammit - Kings called Louis is frankly ludicrous?



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Seventeen, ITYF. Although some damn fool reviewer in the Observer last Sunday seemed to think it was Louis XIV who married Marie Antoinette and got the severe haircut from M. Guillotine.



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Jon,
Even I (American though I be) know better than that.

Of course, I had a Modern European History class at college with a prof who spent a full quarter of the term on the Sun King, and when I worked for the Audio Visual dept. I showed "The Rise to Power of Louis XIV" twice (once with the reels in the wrong order because they were mislabeled. Oops!).

It did prove useful when my friend Kevin was scratching the door (critterlike) to be allowed into my apartment, and I asked him "Where do you think you are, Versailles?" (Conveniently enough, he even knew what I was talking about.)



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However many of the buggers, they weren't terribly good at thinking of names, were they? And what is the plural?



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hmmm don't know a mnemonic (is that spelt right? swipe me with a turnip and call me Maude!) but ask for Scots kings and you get this (roughly!). They're

Kenneth McAlpine, Donald I, Constantin I, Eocha & Giric, Donald II, Constantin II, Malcolm I, Indulf, Dubh, Culin, Kenneth II, Constantin III, Kennth II, Malcolm II, Duncan I, Macbeth, Lulach, Malcolm Canmore (III), Donalbain (III), Duncan II, Donalbain (III) (!), Edgar, Alexander I, David I (who saw the white stag), Malcolm IV, William the Lion, Alexander II, Alexander III, Margaret the Maid of Noraway, John Baliol, Robert the Bruce, David II, Robert II, Robert III, James I, James II, James III, James IV, James V, Mary Q of S, James VI (& I of England) and there you go...



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Kenneth Macalpine? The only king in history to run his own building firm whilst on the throne...

I bet he could have built a Scottish Assembly Building for a decent price...



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Eocha and Giric? Sounds like a cartoon in the Sunday Post ... or somebody shoutin' on Hughie.



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Cool isn't it? No=one seems sure if they shared the throne or just kept trying to top each other... I think they were hoping for their own show!



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Maybe the guy reciting it for the scribe just had a bad cough that day?



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I now know as much about Eocha (or Eochaidh) and Giric (or Ciric) as anyone else, thanks to google. I do know Eochaidh means 'horse', though.



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Aha - the Scots did a Caligula then?



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They're not related to Hengist (a Saxon) and Horsa (a horse) are they?



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Hengist also means horse! (And so, possibly, does Mark as in King of Cornwall ... it's all one bloke with false noses)



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So, this horse walks into a pub, right? And he says 'I'm the King of Scotland'. And the barman says, 'well, that explains the long face then...'



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Magda: are you sure it was 'The Rise To Power of Louis XXIV' you showed twice ? I know there was a lot of them, but surely not *that* many ?

And to think Australians voted against being a republic a few years ago.....

You're right Skiffle. My X key must have stuck, since I don't believe they got up to 24 of them. LOL! I'll fix it in the original post.



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Cutting back quite a way in the thread...

Simon: "diglossia" is the linguistic term for speaking two forms of the same language. So frinstance, I might parley a more casual lingo here on the fforums, but use the Queen's English in more formal company. The phenomenon of written and spoken language forms diverging probably has a technical term, but I can't remember it. The only term I can remember is "linguistic ossification", which is when the written language becomes redundant by not changing to keep pace with the spoken language, as happened with Latin. French language purists, beware.

PSD: Chinese comes in several dialects, and while I won't pretend to know any of them, I've heard other people talk about one of the dialects (probably either Mandarin or, more likely, Cantonese) in which there are four ways to say every word, and that determines the meaning. This, courtesy of a presentation by Leeds University's Applied Linguistics Department on an open day nine years ago. Amazing what sticks, innit?



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