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Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: dante (---.thls.bbc.co.uk)
Date: July 30, 2003 05:30PM

Ooh-er, I'm not sure I know what a sheriff/ procurator fiscal does. All I know is that if there's a suspicious death, or if you don't pay your speeding fine, or other random things, it gets reported to the procurator fiscal. Possibly they then decide whether to charge you, I'm not sure.

Yes, according to Google, that's what they do - they make a recommendation to the Crown Counsel about whether to charge, based on a police report and stuff. Also:

"The job of the Procurator Fiscal is to make preliminary investigations into criminal cases in their districts, take written statements from witnesses and conduct the prosecution in the Sheriff and District Courts. "

Apparently it's similar to the Crown Prosecution Service in E&W.

(Oh, and I don't get offended at province, but probably only because I don't know the technical definition...)



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Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: Bluebottle (---.server.ntl.com)
Date: July 31, 2003 11:49AM

> In (at least some) parts of the north "Brass" is a slang term for money, but in London it
> seems to be one of the slang terms meaning 'prostitute'.

I also use the term to refer to high-up management ('top brass'), which I assume is an extrapolation from the money definition.


Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: Intrigue (---.vic.bigpond.net.au)
Date: July 31, 2003 12:07PM

Isn't there a movie "Brassed Off"?



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Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: Simon (---.westsussex.gov.uk)
Date: July 31, 2003 12:39PM

I think that "top brass" actually comes from the armed forces, because senior officers were sometimes referred to colloquially as "brass hats" (amongst other things...) due to the amount of gold braid on their uniform headwear.

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Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: jon (---.abel.net.uk)
Date: July 31, 2003 12:46PM

There is a movie called Brassed Off (and some of it was filmed in my village) from the phrase of the same name, meaning severely dischuffed. I hope that clears that up ...



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Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: KT (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: July 31, 2003 12:51PM

Not forgetting the TV series "Brass"

Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: Sarah (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: July 31, 2003 01:17PM

When Brassed Off was released in Italy, the translators couldn't work out how to render the pun in the title, so they chickened out and gave it a different title altogether. The Italian version of the film is called Grazie, Signora Thatcher ("Thank you, Mrs Thatcher"). OK, you can tell it's meant to be ironic, but somehow it just doesn't have the same ring.



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Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: jon (---.abel.net.uk)
Date: July 31, 2003 01:46PM

Oooo yes, "Brass" ... that was brilliant ... Keir Hardie's cap ...

"Profits down again, Austin. I think I'll have to close down the crutch factory. There's only the standing order from Oldham Athletic keeping it going."



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Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: Guy (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: July 31, 2003 03:48PM

I always thought brass hats was rhyming slang . . . ?



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Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: KT (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: July 31, 2003 04:05PM

As far as I know, Brass Flute is Prostitute and Brass Tacks is Facts, but Brass Hats isn't rhyming slang. I thought that it came from military slang for officers with scrambled egg on their hats too.

Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: Ptolemy (---.range81-152.btcentralplus.com)
Date: July 31, 2003 04:47PM

Isn't "brassy" a description for any tawdry, common woman lacking in grace and wearing an excess of @#$%& showy ornamentation?

I'm sure I've heard a certain former blonde barmaid from the TV soap Coronation Street described thus (avoiding naming her here for fear of being sued since I could be well off the mark! Perhaps it really a term is only applied to prostitutes! )

Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: KT (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: July 31, 2003 04:56PM

Brassy from brazen perhaps.
None of which explains why brass monkeys of course.

Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: Sarah (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: July 31, 2003 05:13PM

The origin of the "brass monkeys" phrase has definitely been explained here before, and I'm pretty sure it was by PSD. Curiously enough, it was entirely clean!



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Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: Simon (---.westsussex.gov.uk)
Date: July 31, 2003 05:52PM

And if he was right then it referred to shipboard racks made from brass, used for storing cannon-balls, which (unlike the wooden racks that they replaced) contracted noticeably _ with the obvious results _ in very cold weather.

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Re: say what u want 2
Posted by: Sarah (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: July 31, 2003 06:00PM

Well recalled! I did remember it was nautical, but couldn't remember the exact details.



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