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Re: Rather good article
Posted by: Tari (129.62.120.---)
Date: August 27, 2005 08:14PM

Well, I learned something new today, I always wondered why the pound sign was an L. Of course, the dollar sign doesn't make much sense either. $ ??? If someone knows the history behind that, I'd love to be enlightened.



Post Edited (08-27-05 21:16)

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Re: Rather good article
Posted by: MartinB (---.is.co.za)
Date: August 28, 2005 06:57PM

Sense? Rubbish decimals are soo much nicer.

Nicky: When in goodness' name was *that*?! I wasn't speculating but you must be much older than I thought....



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"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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Re: Rather good article
Posted by: Nicky_playing_on_Dibs'_PC (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: August 28, 2005 07:19PM

Geez, Martin, I'm only 34. I know this probably makes me twice your age, but I'm nowhere near ancient. http://terrascope.co.uk/Forum/images/oldman.gif

It was in the '70s. And no, I don't mean the 1870s.


Re: Rather good article
Posted by: Nicky (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: August 28, 2005 08:13PM

Actually, a little research has revealed that the rand reached an all time high of $1.35 in 1980.


Edited for dodgy grammar.



Post Edited (08-28-05 21:16)

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: Autumn (---.nyc.untd.com)
Date: August 28, 2005 10:01PM

Fabu use of that smiley, Nicky.

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: Nicky (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: August 29, 2005 12:03AM

*curtseys*

Thanks, Autumn, I was rather proud of it, myself.



Post Edited (08-29-05 01:04)

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: MartinB (---.is.co.za)
Date: August 29, 2005 07:15PM

Oh. Younger than my mom then. You're a spring chicken in other words....

And 18 X 2 = 36 so you're almost twice my age....

It's sitting around R6 to the $ and R11 to the pound.

so 34p is about R4 something.

Congrats on smily usage too....



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'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: ScarletBea (---.be.jnj.com)
Date: August 30, 2005 08:06AM

In portuguese we call 'pounds' 'libras' :)

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.welsh-ofce.gov.uk)
Date: September 02, 2005 04:23PM

I always thought the $ came from $ilver Dollar.....

But I could be completely wrong.

I remember Pounds Shillings and Pence too because I'm even older than Nicky. No beard tho'...

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.welsh-ofce.gov.uk)
Date: September 02, 2005 04:28PM

Are the parents of baby Thursday also Fforum Goers?

Love the name :-)

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: MartinB (---.is.co.za)
Date: September 03, 2005 09:52AM

I still fail to see how that system made any sense....

240p in a pound? Puhleaze....

Jeni: Severe literary fever on the parents' part.... Good name though.



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'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: splat21 (---.server.ntli.net)
Date: September 04, 2005 12:27PM

Na, it made perfect sense. People were just very good at dividing by 12.



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Re: Rather good article
Posted by: MartinB (---.is.co.za)
Date: September 04, 2005 05:38PM

Why? We only have 10 fingers on average....



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'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: Ptolemy (---.range81-152.btcentralplus.com)
Date: September 04, 2005 07:19PM

Everyone in the World is familiar with, and has no problem with, non decimal systems; there are 24 hours in a day, each half (am and pm) divided into 12 hours which are divided into 12 segments 5 minutes long.

Eggs are sold in dozens, the reason being that they are easier to package, 3 x 4 rather than 2 x 5 as 10 eggs would have to be. A standard egg box is 2 x 6 eggs. How do you package 5 eggs efficiently?

10, the basis of metric systems is only divisible by 2 and 5, and whilst good for counting (using your fingers as MartinB points out) is not that great for other everyday applications - whereas 12 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6.

Apparently, book-keeping and accounting procedures were also much easier as a result of measurements being in multiples of three, though I couldn't begin to tell you why.

The only hiccup in the pre decimal system is 20 shillings in a pound. This evolved partly due to the French influence back in Napoleonic times when their newly introduced 'metric' money was based around factors of 20. (Far more logical would have been 12 shillings in a pound, or 144 pennies.)

As with most things, we can blame the French for decimalisation. It was also Napoleon who made the rest of Europe drive on the right; before that everyone drove on the left like us (though not in cars obviously). Bah.

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: Tari (129.62.120.---)
Date: September 04, 2005 08:18PM

Can I ask you a question, Ptols? Do you just pull this stuff out of your head? or did you google it? or did you study the economics of bygone eras? Because it is rather impressive.



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Re: Rather good article
Posted by: annie.leader-biblio (---.server.ntli.net)
Date: September 04, 2005 10:11PM

I rather think he just remembers it.

Pounds, shillings and pence. Feet and inches. Perches, chains, furlongs, firkins, the Julian calendar.

Ah, memories!



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Re: Rather good article
Posted by: Ptolemy (---.range81-152.btcentralplus.com)
Date: September 04, 2005 10:35PM

Perches and furlongs, Katie? How could you forget poles and rods! Why else do you think I'm the keeper of the Pointy Stick?

And Tari, it's a combination of the two. I remember stuff vaguely enough to search for it precicely enough to write something definite enough to make some kind of sense. Hopefully.

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: annie.leader-biblio (---.server.ntli.net)
Date: September 04, 2005 10:43PM

I just didn't think it was appropriate to talk about rods as a unit of measurement Mr McM.

And don't pretend you don't remember the time when your pocket money was a tanner and half a crown was riches, though you might get to see a ten bob note at Christmas.



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Re: Rather good article
Posted by: Ptolemy (---.range81-152.btcentralplus.com)
Date: September 04, 2005 11:05PM

But a rod was a unit of measurement!

"Pole
Unit of length and area. Also known as a perch or rod. As a unit of length, equal to 16.5 feet. A mile is 320 poles. As a unit of area, equal to a square with sides one pole long. An acre is 160 square poles. It was common to see an area referred to as "87 acres, 112 poles", meaning 87 and 112/160 acres."

from: [www.fermanagh.org.uk]

And you're right, of course. I am old enough to remember receiving a tanner (aka sixpence) a week pocket money, which I used mainly on purchasing halfpenny "blackjacks" at Bostock's corner shop near where I lived. And a half crown was indeed riches beyond imagination.

This also sparks a memory of when I was in the boy scouts, we used to have an annual fund-raising drive called "Bob a Job Week" whereby we would do a job around the house (or washing a car or whatever) for a "bob" (slang for a shilling). I kid you not, one year the Girl Guides introduced a similar idea called "Willing for a Shilling". Incredibly it only lasted one year..... (would have been around 1965 or so at a guess)

Re: Rather good article
Posted by: SLIGHTCAP (---.dalect01.va.comcast.net)
Date: September 04, 2005 11:12PM

I remember spending a penny for a gumball.

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