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Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Anonymous User (213.2.198.---)
Date: July 31, 2003 05:07PM

Well its my first topic and its book related...

Just in case you don't know,

This vicar (Graham Taylor - calls himself G.P Taylor to avoid obvious football related ex england manager name calling) wrote a book called shadowmancer about good vs evil etc etc...
it was laughed at by the publishing world. He desides to publish it himself and after some public interest in his book, it has now been signed up and is selling in paperback only.

Now the mounted first edition books (the ones he got published himself) are selling for £1000+ on ebay!!! and the signed first edition paperbacks are going for about £40-£50 as well!! MAD!!!

I just got a signed 1 edition 2 print for face value £3,99 in waterstones and i have seen 1 edition 3 prints going for about £25 on ebay!!!

CrAzY!!!

he's got a MASSIVE book deal to release it in the states and the usual film rights crap etc...

errr anybody read it?


Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Simon (---.westsussex.gov.uk)
Date: July 31, 2003 05:49PM

I haven't read (or bought, or even reserved at the library) this book yet.

Apparently the Rev Taylor was briefly in the news a year or two (or three?) ago, because he publicly denounced the 'Harry Potter' phenomenon.


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Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Anonymous User (213.2.198.---)
Date: July 31, 2003 05:56PM

oooh did'nt know that....


i'm gonna try and buy some more to sell on ebay...


Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Anonymous User (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: July 31, 2003 05:56PM

Without any opinion of the book, all credit to an author who has got himself published by this means and done well out of it.

For those of us with only 58 books (sorry, that's 60, I got tempted by Amazon today) it would have to do a lot to convince me to read it!


Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: poetscientistdrinker (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: July 31, 2003 06:07PM

There's been a lot of fuss about it, mostly becasue the media love a good 'unexpected vicar' story. The reviews I've seen of it have been mixed, to be honest.

It's being promoted as a kind of Christian Harry Potter.;..



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Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Carla (---.dsl.pipex.com)
Date: July 31, 2003 11:06PM

sorry, as someone who works in the book business i have to say there is no such thing as a first edition second print... a book is a first edtion... or its not, these second third prints people talk about aren't real first edtions because they will not have the number 1 printed on the inside of the book.

i have got a first edition Faber, but haven't read it yet

Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: kaz (139.134.58.---)
Date: August 01, 2003 12:41AM

As a Christian who loves Harry Potter I cannot see the problem with it. What about Enid Blyton and her witches and fairies? What about Shakespeare? It's all rediculous!


Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Skiffle (---.cache.pol.co.uk)
Date: August 01, 2003 01:16AM

I was a bit puzzled by this first edition, second print stuff too. A book can be a first editon, and then reprints of that original edition. It can also come out in another edition (eg hardback and then paperback). Subsequent editions can be reprinted too. A first edition is exactly that: the first print-run of a book. If a book has more than one printing date, it is not a first edition, it is a reprint.

As for Shadowmancer, I've never heard of it.

Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Carla (---.dsl.pipex.com)
Date: August 01, 2003 07:21AM

Skiffle, I thing this first print thing is something created by dealers to make their books seem more valuable.

Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Anonymous User (213.2.198.---)
Date: August 01, 2003 09:49AM

i agree, but how else do you term it then?
E.G "A reprint number 3 of the first edition style" takes too long.
So, 1 edition second print or "1/2" is easier.

I know and you know the True First Edition is the first print run.

Anybody got Jaspers full set in first edition? I've got LIAGB & WOLP but not the Eyre Affair. Still trying to complete the set...


Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Carla (198.179.227.---)
Date: August 01, 2003 09:52AM

It's just called a reprint...
it's not a first edition, that is wrong. (and in case you wonder I work in the trade and Skiffle is a published author... so we kind of know)

I have all my Jaspers in proof copies, can't even upgrade because there aren't upgrades for proofs.

Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: KT (---.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
Date: August 01, 2003 10:02AM

Are proofs the same as galleys?

Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Anonymous User (213.2.198.---)
Date: August 01, 2003 10:09AM

ok carla you win...

now lets cut the foreplay, fancy some badger loving? ;)


Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Anonymous User (213.2.198.---)
Date: August 01, 2003 10:26AM

erm, sorry about that.

anyhow check this link

[cgi.ebay.co.uk]

damm, whats the html to add links?

its a shadowmancer reprint sold for over £20!! People must really want that vicars signature.

oooh heres a good one too. mr potter...


[cgi.ebay.co.uk]


Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Intrigue (---.vic.bigpond.net.au)
Date: August 01, 2003 10:57AM

I'm only waiting for the new Matthew Reilly, Lemony Snicket and Robin Hobb books.

And WOLP, of course. It comes out next week in Australia doesn't it?



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Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Carla (198.179.227.---)
Date: August 01, 2003 11:00AM

KT i'm not sure what galleys are.

Bound proofs look like books, sometimes have the same jacket as the finished copy other times don't, sometimes they are the actual book, other times still have "text to be delivered" on prefaces and aknowledgments (sp?) pages and stuff.

Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Anonymous User (213.2.198.---)
Date: August 01, 2003 11:17AM

i think galleys are proofs in a very early stage. Before page numbers or illustrations etc. They are just the text written in columns but contain all the text of the book with any amendmants to the original story made.

of course i could be talking rubbish again....


Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Auntysassy (193.132.206.---)
Date: August 01, 2003 12:03PM

Back to Shadowmancer - it's not doing too badly in the children's charts - number 4 this week.

A copy was sent to me but it didn't appeal so I put it on the shelf for general consumption.


Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Anonymous User (213.2.198.---)
Date: August 01, 2003 12:11PM

erm, sassy, is that a first edition copy?? (flutter of eyelids)

wanna sell it... give you £10 for it...lol


Re: Has the U.K gone Shadowmancer mad?
Posted by: Auntysassy (193.132.206.---)
Date: August 01, 2003 01:50PM

Oh it went ages ago - it might even have been a proof. I only keep books that I want to read - the rest are up for grabs. Sorry.


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