Kaz - beyond the mind-bogglingly impossible name, he doens't seem to feature in world history, so pretty boring. He is back in the 14thcentury though, so I guess it isn't all bad...



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Come on. 'Fess up. Tell us the name. Then see if we can guess how to pronounce it.

Tieminieski
Tiemmineieiesjke
Tejmieneski
Tiemienjeski
Timieneski
Tiemeienenjeskeieke


Frankly, I habve no idea how to even start spelling it. 'T', obviously. Beyond that it all goes pear shaped..



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Oh.

Hang on, I've got the family tree downstairs my polish cousin sent over for us....



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Right. My oldest ancestor that I know the name of is Abraham de Tymieniec, who presumably is some kind of Polish knight, who's mentioned back in 1392 (presumably this is when he was knighted?). Whatever, as a direct descendant on the male line I guess I may even be entitled to the family coat of arms in a few years.

An inordinate amount of space is given to Albertus Tymieniecki de Tymieniec who hs been mentioned in a document from 1516, so I guess he may have done something notable. I'm assuming this is other than marry Sophie Poniatowska (presuambly this is the document of that date).

I've only just realised that I might have a coat of arms, actually. That makes me feel really weird, now. Strange, huh?



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Gee I'm glad I asked.....

I know it's terribly boring, but also kind of cool for me. I'm glad you asked, otehrwise I wouldn't have bothered thinking about it beyond 'I have an ancestor a few centuries back'. I've only just twigged that I must be related through the male line to have got my name.



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Well, yes. That would make sense, wouldn't it.

Duh!

My first thought was 'duh' actually. Has anybody else traced ancestors back that far? Or at all?

I'm not terribly interested in it but my grandfather got given a copy of a family tree drawn out by a cousin and we got a decent copy drafted as a present for him, and a copy for us. He came over to England after the second world war, having been used as slave labour on German farms, so that side of my family are either exterminated or in Poland still.

I would never be bothered enough to trace family back that far, but now that somebody else has done it for me I can't help but think it's quite a cool thing to know.



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My grandfatehr did a lot of research into our family tree. It's tricky for Aussies to find out this info further back than immigration, but my great-great-great grandfather was a convict and we know a fair bit about him and his family. He was a bit dodgy because he left England in 1830-ish, leaving behind his wife and child, but then, after he was paroled here he married and had several more children, from whom I am descended. Rather iffy.

Hubby is descended from the Earls of Conway in Wales. Conway Castle at Conwy is his ancestoral home. Of course, that home is rather draughty now, but it's nice all the same. We've not seen it, but his parents saw it when they went to Europe ten years ago.

My hubby has been tracing my family (his father is doing his, so he doesn't want to double up on that one!)

So far, the earliest one we have confirmed is Robert Banning (my 13th great-grandfather) born about 1490 in Burbage, Wiltshire England.

And there's Marty Linder born in 1585 in Bern Canton in Switzerland


btw, I only have 16,364 13th Great-Grandfathers :-P


But that info isn't too bad considering all my ancestors have been in America since before it was America - officially - no newer imports! :) So tracing a lot of this has been tough going. But those 2 lines above are the ones we have confirmed that go farthest back.



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PSD - if you're entitled to a coat of arms, are you going to start signing yourself Sir PSD?



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One of my direct ancestors was (allegedly) the Cardinal Archbishop of Armagh, the dirty oul' sod, and another one fought at the Battle of Waterloo. For the French, naturally. And I have a coat of arms (which I must get round to hanging on the wall along woth all the other pictures ..), and there is a Maguire castle in Co. Fermanagh. It's very nice.

GSD knows where the Brierleys come from, but I bet there's lots of them went to Australia via Wakefield Gaol.



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Ooh! Another coat of arms! So now we have Sir PSD and Sir Jon... :-D



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Sarah

My father thought that we were distantly related to the Reeve family who were (non-"titled") lords of the manor of Lowestoft (in Suffolk) around a couple of centuries ago, although as far as I know the actual details of any such connection have never been traced.

My mother's father was a chef. He spent the latter decades of his career working for the Great Western Railways, back when they still served proper meals on the long-distance trains. On one occasion he cooked for the crowned heads of Europe (aboard the slow train that took them along with King George V's body from London, after the King's funeral service in Westminster Abbey, out to Windsor for the actual interment), and mother still had a copy of the menu from that meal when she sorted through her family papers a few years ago. He also cooked a meal for Winston Churchill on one of the latter's rail journeys (in this case to Wales, to inspect some Home Guard units there) during WW II. HIS mother was 'in service' as a cook: Her employers included a writer/poet/broadcaster called Lance Sieveking, who wrote a short poem (which mother's still got the original copy of...) about her.

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We did try tracing the paternal line of our family a few years back. We came a bit unstuck just before the turn of the century - a John Foster married a Mary - there were four John and Mary Fosters married in the same village within a year of each other!

But then the family line after that is a little interesting (for me, anyway) - the Foster Bros clothing company was founded by my great-great grandfather, and my great-great uncle captained the English cricket team on the 1911 Ashes tour of Oz (which we won, by the way...), and held the Warwickshire record for most number of runs scored in a one-day match right up until the mid 1990s when Brian Lara broke it (and the world record)

We did trace the maternal line further back, but my aunt has most of the documents, and as we aren't currently speaking to her, it makes things a little difficult...



I drink to drown my sorrows. Unfortunately they've learnt how to swim.

My paternal ancestor on the VanHeyningen side (or rather van Heijningen, originally) reputedly came to America from the Netherlands with his best friend. You had to have $10 in order to get into the country. Apparently one of them came in, then passed the money over the fence to the other so he could get in as well.

I've heard rumors that we're distantly related to the Heiniken beer folks, but not closely enough to get any money.

Supposedly my paternal ancestor is a distant relation to H. Sienkiewicz(of Quo Vadis fame). Of course thru further investigation the name Sienkiewicz in Poland is about as popular as the name Smith here in the US.

I have a maternal ancestor who was a priest in County Clare Ireland, another who was burned for being a witch and yet another who was a photographer during the Civil War here in the states.

I've got a wacky family tree!

My "closer" relations include The VanZant brothers from Lynrd Skynrd (3rd cousins, I believe - I'd have to double check) and allegedly also include "Little Steven" VanZant of Bruce Springsteen and The Sopranos fame. None of them good looking, but talented at least!

And I also have a double relative (related twice) that was part of the small band of men called the Longknives, who were one of the first quasi-paramilitary groups in the US and served alongside George Rogers Clark (brother to the famous William Clark of Lewis and Clark fame) The Longknives are most famous for their seige of the British at Fort Sackville in Vincennes, Indiana during the Revolutionary War.