00) The example in front of me is ultimately vegetable in origin.
01) Edible? No.
02) Wearable? No.
03) Bigger than a breadbox? Some a little larger, some a little smaller.
04) Is it some sort of rock? No.
05) Is it useful? Yes, definitely yes.
06) Moving parts? Yes.
07) Does one buy it at the supermarket? Not usually, no.
08) Is it electrical? Some are and some aren't. Mine isn't.
09) Does it contain paper? Not normally.
10) Used mainly indoors? Arguably no.
11) Float in water? Depends on the model, I would say.
12) Designed to be portable? Mostly yes.

Does it have square angles?

Well, virtually everything manufactured has a square angle somewhere doesn't it? Are you sure you want the question?

I meant to say predominantly.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/14/2010 08:38AM by delacuesta.

00) The example in front of me is ultimately vegetable in origin.
01) Edible? No.
02) Wearable? No.
03) Bigger than a breadbox? Some a little larger, some a little smaller.
04) Is it some sort of rock? No.
05) Is it useful? Yes, definitely yes.
06) Moving parts? Yes.
07) Does one buy it at the supermarket? Not usually, no.
08) Is it electrical? Some are and some aren't. Mine isn't.
09) Does it contain paper? Not normally.
10) Used mainly indoors? Arguably no.
11) Float in water? Depends on the model, I would say.
12) Designed to be portable? Mostly yes.
13) Predominantly have square angles? No, actually the opposite.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/14/2010 08:55AM by EgonSpengler.

Very ill thought out guess fortunately removed before it was spotted.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/14/2010 03:00PM by geg.

00) The example in front of me is ultimately vegetable in origin.
01) Edible? No.
02) Wearable? No.
03) Bigger than a breadbox? Some a little larger, some a little smaller.
04) Is it some sort of rock? No.
05) Is it useful? Yes, definitely yes.
06) Moving parts? Yes.
07) Does one buy it at the supermarket? Not usually, no.
08) Is it electrical? Some are and some aren't. Mine isn't.
09) Does it contain paper? Not normally.
10) Used mainly indoors? Arguably no.
11) Float in water? Depends on the model, I would say.
12) Designed to be portable? Mostly yes.
13) Predominantly have square angles? No, actually the opposite.
13a) Is it William Shatner? No, it is definitely not.

Would I expect to find more than one in the average household?

00) The example in front of me is ultimately vegetable in origin.
01) Edible? No.
02) Wearable? No.
03) Bigger than a breadbox? Some a little larger, some a little smaller.
04) Is it some sort of rock? No.
05) Is it useful? Yes, definitely yes.
06) Moving parts? Yes.
07) Does one buy it at the supermarket? Not usually, no.
08) Is it electrical? Some are and some aren't. Mine isn't.
09) Does it contain paper? Not normally.
10) Used mainly indoors? Arguably no.
11) Float in water? Depends on the model, I would say.
12) Designed to be portable? Mostly yes.
13) Predominantly have square angles? No, actually the opposite.
13a) Is it William Shatner? No, it is definitely not.
14) More than one in the average household? No, you might not even find one in the average household.

I would just like to make a formal apology for wasting question 13a.

Sorry.

00) The example in front of me is ultimately vegetable in origin.
01) Edible? No.
02) Wearable? No.
03) Bigger than a breadbox? Some a little larger, some a little smaller.
04) Is it some sort of rock? No.
05) Is it useful? Yes, definitely yes.
06) Moving parts? Yes.
07) Does one buy it at the supermarket? Not usually, no.
08) Is it electrical? Some are and some aren't. Mine isn't.
09) Does it contain paper? Not normally.
10) Used mainly indoors? Arguably no.
11) Float in water? Depends on the model, I would say.
12) Designed to be portable? Mostly yes.
13) Predominantly have square angles? No, actually the opposite.
13a) Is it William Shatner? No, it is definitely not.
14) More than one in the average household? No, you might not even find one in the average household.
15) Is it a tool? Yes.

No ES, I don't think it can be a tool. I've spent ages trying to think of Geologist tools {"is it used indoors - arguably no", "example in front of me"} made entirely of wood or rubber or rope, that are the size of a breadbox but can be electrical, and I can't think of one.So you might want to re-think that last question before ES sees it and has a chance to answer.

It's not a tool? Egads, I feel a fool. I'll stop using it with the thing immediately.

At 75% let us see what we have.

It is now a tool, i.e. a manufactured utility, mostly portable, and used mainly outdoors to the extent that it is hardly a household item. It is not bought at the supermarket, so presumably some kind of speciality. It is not used to contain paper.
It can consist of various materials, but the specific model Egon has in mind is "ultimately vegetable" (which may include plastic or similar).
It has about the size of a breadbox, hardly features right angles, and may be partly hollow (so as to float on water) but not predominantly so.
It has moving parts. It may be electrical but Egon's item is not.

I'm lost...

[edit 1 to clarify that I wrote this post without seeing the 1:19 post by geg and the 1:23 post by ES. edit 2 to remove a typing error]



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/15/2010 03:53PM by delacuesta.

I want it on record that I'm not doing a third game in a row...

You could always choose William Shatner - we're bound to get there eventually.

Perhaps you could clear up the whole ultimately vegetable in origin thingy, because if delacuesta is right about plastic, I'm taking my rubber ball back and not playing anymore.

Mutter mutter. I thought this would be easy.

00) The example in front of me is made of plastic.
01) Edible? No.
02) Wearable? No.
03) Bigger than a breadbox? Some a little larger, some a little smaller.
04) Is it some sort of rock? No.
05) Is it useful? Yes, definitely yes.
06) Moving parts? Yes.
07) Does one buy it at the supermarket? Not usually, no.
08) Is it electrical? Some are and some aren't. Mine isn't.
09) Does it contain paper? Not normally.
10) Used mainly indoors? Arguably no.
11) Float in water? Depends on the model, I would say.
12) Designed to be portable? Mostly yes.
13) Predominantly have square angles? No, actually the opposite.
13a) Is it William Shatner? No, it is definitely not.
14) More than one in the average household? No, you might not even find one in the average household.
15) Is it a tool? Yes.

Is it used on the beach?

Thank you delacuesta for summarizing. Also I wasn't brave enough to admit I'm lost. But since you've admitted it, I will too. I'm seriously lost.

I was *so* sure it was Bill. Dangit.

Let's see. Backpacks normally aren't electrical, and usually hold paper. So not a plastic backpack. It is useful, a tool, has moving parts, apparently used mainly outdoors, might float. Mostly portable and rounded in shape, about the size of a breadbox, and not found in the average household. Can be electrical, but not necessarily, therefore it could be hand-powered, perhaps. This one is plastic.

So. I've restated what delacuesta said and I'm still totally lost. Third time's a charm - anyone else want to have a go?

A big, plastic, roundish, has-moving-parts tool. hmmmmm

<in hindsight thinks "is it used on the beach" to be a silly question, being inspired by items that would qualify as toys rather than tools>

<nevertheless hopes that it will provoke a further hint from ES>

Meanwhile let me try to explain to ES why I'm having a hard time to imagine what he has in mind. I live in an urbanized area, were many people don't even have a garden, let alone that we know how country life is.

From your answers I presume we are not talking of a garden tool (that would be a normal household item), so "outdoors" is really "outdoors-outdoors". What tool does one use there? Public transportation companies strongly feel against passengers using tools inside their vehicles. I don't drive a car so I can imagine no tool used therein. I do sometimes use tools when biking, e.g. to repair a flat tyre; I can even imagine tools for walking (a walking stick, a buggy, roller skates). But all of these one would take from home and thus are household items.
So apparently "outside" does not refer to work, school or shopping, but even farther afield.

And that is where I get lost. Someone might argue that it quite normal for farmers or roadworkers to run after a white rabbit accoss the field with some skew breadbox-sized plastic tool with moving parts, but as far as I am concerned that happens on another planet entirely.

<mumble mumble>



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/15/2010 06:14PM by delacuesta.