Used mainly indoors? Arguably no. What can that possibly mean?

I'm thinking caves and potholes, he's given to mucking about with rocks you know.

00) The example in front of me is made of plastic.
01) Edible? No.
02) Wearable? No.
03) Bigger than a breadbox? Some a little larger, some a little smaller.
04) Is it some sort of rock? No.
05) Is it useful? Yes, definitely yes.
06) Moving parts? Yes.
07) Does one buy it at the supermarket? Not usually, no.
08) Is it electrical? Some are and some aren't. Mine isn't.
09) Does it contain paper? Not normally.
10) Used mainly indoors? Arguably no.
11) Float in water? Depends on the model, I would say.
12) Designed to be portable? Mostly yes.
13) Predominantly have square angles? No, actually the opposite.
13a) Is it William Shatner? No, it is definitely not.
14) More than one in the average household? No, you might not even find one in the average household.
15) Is it a tool? Yes.
16) Is it used on the beach? Yes, you could very easily use it with beach-related items.

So its a breadbin sized plastic model of William Shatner with movable limbs, hollowed out to facilitate its use as a sand carrier? What a shame you didn't buy the electric model.

Shatner has already been removed from consideration. Nobody said it was bread bin sized. Some are smaller, some are bigger.

Ehrm...

What you said was

> 03) Bigger than a breadbox? Some a little larger,
> some a little smaller.

If that doesn't mean "about the same size as a breadbox" then we might speak different languages.

Okay, strike the 'little' and roll on more questions...

(I think you're all reading far more into things than is really there.)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/17/2010 09:47AM by EgonSpengler.

well, I want to say a bucket but I've never heard of an electric bucket.

do the electrified ones have a motor?

00) The example in front of me is made of plastic.
01) Edible? No.
02) Wearable? No.
03) Bigger than a breadbox? Some are larger, some are smaller.
04) Is it some sort of rock? No.
05) Is it useful? Yes, definitely yes.
06) Moving parts? Yes.
07) Does one buy it at the supermarket? Not usually, no.
08) Is it electrical? Strictly speaking most aren't electrical. Some do have a motive force though.
09) Does it contain paper? Not normally.
10) Used mainly indoors? Arguably no.
11) Float in water? Depends on the model, I would say.
12) Designed to be portable? Mostly yes.
13) Predominantly have square angles? No, actually the opposite.
13a) Is it William Shatner? No, it is definitely not.
14) More than one in the average household? No, you might not even find one in the average household.
15) Is it a tool? Yes.
16) Is it used on the beach? Yes, you could very easily use it with beach-related items.
17) Do the non-manual ones have a motor? Yes. (A device that converts energy into motive force).

Good question, VM. Wish I could think of such one.

<was thinking of some kind of shovel, with ES having a plastic miniature model in front of him. But it doesn't match all answers>

<decides to sleep over it>



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/17/2010 07:44PM by delacuesta.

Well, don't become fixated on sand.

Indeed! As you said, its use is "with beach-related items", and I already suspected that sand was not meant to count as a beach related item. But thanks for confirming.

Having slept over it, what we have learnt since my last compilation is that
- It is made of plastic.
- Contrary to prior believe, it is not the size of a breadbox. It may be smaller or larger. Apparently it can be of any size, except that of a breadbox.
- As a tool it can be used with beach-related items (but better not think of it).
- Though most are non-electrical, the electrical ones are motorized. ES insists to say that they merely "have a motive force". Well, at least that clarifies that heat, light, sound etcetera are less or not involved.

Looking over it, that doesn't really clear the mud.

Hold on...

Could the formulation "motive force" mean that nothing visibly moves but is oscillating to produce sound? Not that I can imagine the actual object...

Well, let's ask.

Does it produce sound?

00) The example in front of me is made of plastic.
01) Edible? No.
02) Wearable? No.
03) Bigger than a breadbox? Some are larger, some are smaller.
04) Is it some sort of rock? No.
05) Is it useful? Yes, definitely yes.
06) Moving parts? Yes.
07) Does one buy it at the supermarket? Not usually, no.
08) Is it electrical? Strictly speaking most aren't electrical. Some do have a motive force though.
09) Does it contain paper? Not normally.
10) Used mainly indoors? Arguably no.
11) Float in water? Depends on the model, I would say.
12) Designed to be portable? Mostly yes.
13) Predominantly have square angles? No, actually the opposite.
13a) Is it William Shatner? No, it is definitely not.
14) More than one in the average household? No, you might not even find one in the average household.
15) Is it a tool? Yes.
16) Is it used on the beach? Yes, you could very easily use it with beach-related items.
17) Do the non-manual ones have a motor? Yes. (A device that converts energy into motive force).
18) Does it produce sound? Yes, incidentally.

I think any clue right now would more or less give it away. It can be used with beach/water related items, but it may not be readily associated.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2010 08:58AM by EgonSpengler.

Is it a pump?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2010 11:27AM by delacuesta.

Yes!

<Chucks the crown and sceptre over and returns to being a refular fforumite!>

The word "refular" belongs in another thread.

I only guessed after the "beach/water related" hint. I now assume that what Egon had in mind (I hardly dare say "in front of him") was a plastic hand- or foot-operated pump for aerobeds, small rubber boats, beach balls and the like. If so, I would call some of the answers delusive:

03) Most such pumps are larger than a breadbox; few are smaller, as far as I know.
11) I would say that most such pumps will float in water in relaxed state, though they might sink when compressed. Non-deforming models would still contain enough air to float, I reckon. Pumps that will invariable sink probably contain quite some metal.
18) Making air move will necessarily produce sound, not incidentally.

I know delusive answers are part of the game, but not while claiming it to be easy, and not by one who doesn't want a subsequent run.

Well then. Let us proceed with something metallic. Alike objects may be made of vegetable materials but these are disregarded for now.

00) Made of metal.

[edited to change the word "Like" to "Alike".
The above breadbox size remark is now known to be mistaken, but is retained in order to preserve the logic of the subsequent posts]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2010 11:16PM by delacuesta.

(edited twice to remove any chance of accusations of misbehaviour)

Yawn



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2010 06:28PM by SkidMarks.

I could easily fit mine in a bread bin. Noise is produced incidentally to the purpose of inflating the thing. I think the sinking questions is okay. Some them while closed up will sink quite easily.

That's all from me!

E.

<just discovered to have mistranslated "bread box/bin" for as long as this thread is running; thought it to be the thing one uses to take sandwiches in to one's work; naturally apologizes for this; and imagines the size question now to be settled>

No, I now feel compelled to ask how big your sandwiches are.

My sandwiches are quite modest in size.

Note: The same word is used in Dutch for both items, and I automatically thought the more abundant thing was meant. Silly, isn't it.